问：「《易》，朱子主卜筮，程《传》主理，何如？」
先生曰：「卜筮是理，理亦是卜筮。天下之理孰有大于卜筮者乎？只为后世将卜筮专主在占卦上看了，所以看得卜筮似小艺。不知今之师友问答，博学、审问、慎思、明辨、笃行之类，皆是卜筮。卜筮者，不过求决狐疑，神明吾心而已。《易》是问诸天。人有疑，自信不及，故以《易》问天。谓人心尚有所涉，惟天不容伪耳。」
问：「《易》，朱子主卜筮，程《传》主理，怎样看？」
先生说：「卜筮就是理，理也是卜筮。天下之理哪有大于卜筮的？只因后世把卜筮专主在占卦上看，所以把卜筮看成了小技艺。不知如今的师友问答、博学审问、慎思明辨、笃行之类，都是卜筮。卜筮，不过是求决狐疑、神明我心而已。《易》是问之于天。人有疑惑，自信不及，所以用《易》去问天。因为人心尚有掺杂，只有天不容作伪。」
Asked: 'On the Changes, Zhu centered on divination, the Cheng commentary on principle — how judge?'
The Master said: 'Divination is principle; principle is divination. What principle under heaven exceeds divination? Only because later ages bound divination to casting the stalks did it dwel into a petty art. Know that today's question and answer of teacher and friend — broad learning, inquiry, careful thought, clear discernment, earnest practice — are all divination: divining is but resolving doubt, making one's mind numinous. The Changes ask of heaven. Doubting and self-distrustful, men ask heaven by the Changes: the human heart can still be mixed; heaven alone brooks no feigning.'